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EXPLANATION FOR CANCELLING
« on: Dec 06, 2008, 12:01 PM »
I think we deserve to know whose decision it was to cancel the show. The cast obviously wants to keep filming, so either the production crew and/or the network wanted to cancel it. This should be our Coronation Street, and it should keep going for decades. In fact, the actors should be forced to keep doing it even after they want to quit, for the sake of national security. So I think we should be told who made the decision to cancel, and we should start a petition to bring the show back.

But I digress. Most people seem to accept the show's demise, but Lan Fisher doesn't play that shit.

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P.S. - Here's a new article in TheStar.ca:

http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/television/article/548680

Raju Mudhar
Entertainment Reporter

"Do you want them in character?" asks the publicist as I sit down across from Julian, Ricky and Bubbles, the much-beloved stars of Trailer Park Boys. With the TV show effectively coming to an end tomorrow, I'm curious about the men behind the characters: John Paul Tremblay, Robb Wells and Mike Smith, respectively. So I say "no."

It's a rare occurrence, as the Boys have continued to play these characters off-screen for much of the media they've done. But with tomorrow's 10 p.m. airing on Showcase of Say Goodbye To The Trailer Park Boys – A Trailer Park Boys Special, which follows a marathon of favourite episodes chosen by cast and crew, it seems fitting to explore what they really think about their past and legacy.

Out of character, though, it quickly feels as if the Boys have been blindsided by the fact that their booze- and weed-soaked mash note to East Coast trailer trash is coming to an end.

"It's tough for me to say how we would want it to end. Season 6 could have been the end. Season 7 could have been the end. There's no real, true, perfect way for it to end," Wells says.

"Unless you had the big cliché, everybody's happy-happy, I guess that would be all right. We tend to not do that. Usually somebody goes to jail. It's never perfect by any means."

"We'd prefer to just keep making it," Smith says.

And why not? It's been a wild ride.

Bobbing between cult and mainstream status, at least in this country, the denizens of Sunnyvale and, in particular, this trio of bumbling criminals, have become ensconced in the national fabric.

Just like Slap Shot's Hanson Brothers, these three have become larger than the series that birthed them. From Julian's ever-present rum and Coke to Ricky's sweatsuits to Bubble's Coke-bottle glasses, their characters are the epitome and apogee of homegrown (or depending on the batch, should we say hydroponically grown) success.

But as it has been for the Hansons, success can be a double-edged sword. Will these actors ever be seen as anything other than their characters? Will the new pilot they are currently writing ever reach the heights of their bumbling criminal adventures?

It turns out that tomorrow's special wasn't supposed to be the end of their run – and to be honest, it's not. It's their final television special, but there is one more movie that's slated to hit theatres next October.

They can't say much more about the project at this time, other than that shooting was reminiscent of times past.

"It's just a crazy story. It kind of felt like the first and second season of shooting, doing this movie. It was a good experience, so it's a good way to go out, I guess," says Tremblay.

The guys start to warm up when we talk about the past, and some of the crazy experiences that being on this cult show yielded; for instance, being handed weed pretty much everywhere they went.

"Yep, it was crazy," says Wells. "Pretty much always at the most inopportune times, too. Like when your grandmother's around. It's bizarre. It's great, but just weird."

"Hanging out with Axl Rose. That was kind of cool," Tremblay says

"We got to go on tour with Guns N' Roses for a few months, that was pretty awesome," Smith says. "I did a duet with Axl (Rose) every night on a song that I had called `Liquor and Whores.' I got to do about 25 shows."

"Throwing out the ball at the Blue Jays game. That was pretty cool," adds Wells.

And this special, like many TPB seasons, features plenty of guests, such as the Tragically Hip's Gord Downie.

The Boys, in turn, remember hanging out with some of their idols.

"Working with Alex Lifeson. What was that episode called? `Closer to the Heart.' That was a great experience. He's a great guy, and we've all been fans of his, forever. That was a special episode for us," Tremblay says.

"Maury Chaykin, too. He was amazing," Wells adds.

And then there are the experiences with fans, many of which definitely had a Trailer Park vibe.

"I had a girl try to rip out a handful of my hair one night. And I asked what she was doing, and she said, `My little brother's a fan, and I wanted to take some hair to him,'" Smith says.

"Some guy stuck his bare ass in the window of our car and handed us a marker and wanted us to sign it. Said it like it was a normal thing," adds Tremblay.

"There was that guy in P.E.I. who tried to hire you guys to kill a dog," recalls Smith.

"He was serious. He went to the bank machine and got out 200 bucks," Wells says.

(Those fans with surprisingly good memories will recall that in the original black-and-white pilot film, Ricky and Julian were pet assassins. Turns out this guy thought they were the real deal.)

"We definitely have to thank our fans for everything. I mean, I remember one time, this guy came up to me in a bar, and he was kind of yapping at me, saying, `Your show's a joke, you can't act, and you suck' and stuff. And one of our fans overheard him, followed him outside and he f---ing whacked him with a bottle," says Smith. " `Don't you f---in' ever talk that way to Bubbles.'

"I don't think you'd ever get that on Corner Gas. I don't think anybody would bottle anybody for saying s--- to Brent Butt. Maybe they would. I just found that this guy's got my back hard."

When asked what made the show successful, Canada's favourite fictional felons sum it up pretty simply: "There's a lot of heart in the show. People can relate to the characters. It's just one big family. It's like Little House on the Prairie from hell, with lots of cursing and swearing," says Tremblay.

"We definitely broke every rule. It's crazy that it reached the status it did," says Wells. "We always thought it would be an underground cult-y thing, which it started out as, but it just kind of exploded to this thing is it is now. I think the unique characters, unique situations in a unique setting all made it.

"But when you strip all the hardcore swearing, guns and dope out of the way, it does come down to family and love, and everyone can relate to that."
"Why don't you just pretend you're a little squirrel, Ricky?"
"Why don't you pretend you're someone fucking off, Bubbles!"
"Fuckin' tell me to fuck off."

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Re: EXPLANATION FOR CANCELLING
« Reply #1 on: Dec 06, 2008, 12:38 PM »

"We definitely have to thank our fans for everything. I mean, I remember one time, this guy came up to me in a bar, and he was kind of yapping at me, saying, `Your show's a joke, you can't act, and you suck' and stuff. And one of our fans overheard him, followed him outside and he f---ing whacked him with a bottle," says Smith. " `Don't you f---in' ever talk that way to Bubbles.'


All right, which one of you was it?  ;)

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Re: EXPLANATION FOR CANCELLING
« Reply #2 on: Dec 06, 2008, 12:47 PM »
I wish it were me. I'll always have their backs, hard. In fact, whenever I hear anyone diss the show I lay into them.

I generally disagree with violence, but I fully condone smashing a bottle on anyone who disses Bubbles.
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Re: EXPLANATION FOR CANCELLING
« Reply #3 on: Dec 06, 2008, 01:17 PM »
agreed lan fisher...  :beermug:

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Re: EXPLANATION FOR CANCELLING
« Reply #4 on: Dec 06, 2008, 02:50 PM »
It would be cool to know exactly who decided to pull the plug. I have a suspicion it was the network - too much censorship pressure or something?


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Re: EXPLANATION FOR CANCELLING
« Reply #5 on: Dec 06, 2008, 02:51 PM »
Harper's Conservative government probably threatened to cut funding to Showcase due to all the drugs, etc. In any case, this is whack.
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Re: EXPLANATION FOR CANCELLING
« Reply #6 on: Dec 06, 2008, 03:13 PM »
That's within the realm of plausible.



Harper's Conservative government probably threatened to cut funding to Showcase due to all the drugs, etc. In any case, this is whack.

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Re: EXPLANATION FOR CANCELLING
« Reply #7 on: Dec 06, 2008, 04:11 PM »
I'm not sure the Tv industry works but as it seems the actors were expecting another series, couldn't they just go to another network, or is showcase the only network that will payroll the production?
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Re: EXPLANATION FOR CANCELLING
« Reply #8 on: Dec 06, 2008, 04:20 PM »
Showcase probably owns the rights to it, but I don't really know how it works either.
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Re: EXPLANATION FOR CANCELLING
« Reply #9 on: Dec 06, 2008, 08:47 PM »
I'd say it was the producers ending it early. such a shame. all the actors want to keep it going.

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Re: EXPLANATION FOR CANCELLING
« Reply #10 on: Dec 06, 2008, 09:19 PM »
I think we deserve to know whose decision it was to cancel the show.

I posted this before in another topic in the TPB news forum


For the record the show wasn't cancelled, that paper put out another article later saying that it was Clattenburg's decision to not continue on with the show.

Here is the article...

http://www.nationalpost.com/arts/movies/story.html?id=957723

The text...

Mr. Lahey, We hardly knew you

Creators pull the plug on Trailer Park Boys

Adam McDowell,  National Post  Published: Friday, November 14, 2008

Ricky will soon munch his last chicken finger and stub out his last joint. Julian will drink his final rum and Coke, and Bubbles will steal shopping carts no more. There will not be an eighth season: Following a Dec. 7 special, and a movie to follow next October, Trailer Park Boys will come to an end.

Mike Clattenburg, the irreverent TV comedy's creator and showrunner, broke the news at Showcase's Sideshow blog on Wednesday.

"Over the past few months there has been a lot of discussion among our fans and those in the media about the future of Trailer Park Boys," he wrote. He mentioned a one-hour special to air Dec. 7 and a second major Trailer Park Boys movie, tentatively titled Countdown To Liquor Day, due to be released in theatres in October, 2009.

"After that, there will be no more," he continued. "Yes, it's the end of Trailer Park Boys. Our fans have been so supportive and inspiring that we wanted you to be the first to know. Much love and thanks from all of us at Sunnyvale Trailer Park."

The show presents a satirical and oddly endearing portrait of the Nova Scotia underclass. Lead Boys Ricky (Rob Wells) and Julian (Jean Paul Tremblay) made their first appearance in a 72-minute film that premiered at the Atlantic Film Festival in 1999. The Showcase program started scamming its way into the nation's hearts in 2001; it was immediately noteworthy for not bleeping out the copious number of swears in the dialogue.

"When it started on Showcase, [it was] a cult or niche show. It really took a while to pick up momentum," said Tara Ellis, vice-president drama content for Showcase (which shares a parent company, Canwest, with the National Post), in an interview yesterday. "Season Three is when it really popped right into the mainstream ... into a somewhat guilty pleasure for some viewers, seeing these three nutbars swear and toke up."

Ellis said ending the show was Clattenburg's decision, and that Showcase will probably work again with some of the people involved before long.

Season Seven ended with the Boys striking it rich, and Ricky finally getting his Grade 11 in jail. The one-hour special Say Goodnight to the Bad Guys, airing Dec. 7, will rejoin them in Sunnyvale Trailer Park where the last season left off. A nine-episode marathon put together by Clattenburg and the three principal cast members will air earlier the same day.

amcdowell@nationalpost.com

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Ellis says it was Clattenburg’s decision but to be fair maybe he doesn’t know the whole story.  Clattenburg poured his heart and soul into the show and if he doesn’t want it to keep doing it then we all should respect  his decision.  All the so called “fans” that came here on the Org and bitched how the show wasn’t good anymore should bear some of the responsibility there’s only so much negativity one can stand. 


From the article...

Mike Clattenburg, the irreverent TV comedy's creator and showrunner, broke the news at Showcase's Sideshow blog on Wednesday.


He actually broke the news here at the Org first  :)

Showcase probably owns the rights to it, but I don't really know how it works either.

I doubt that shows have been known to change networks before.

Harper's Conservative government probably threatened to cut funding to Showcase due to all the drugs, etc. In any case, this is whack.

Yes the Cons kowtow to the moral majority and are proponents of bill C-10.  They may not have behind this situation with the TPB and Showcase but if they have their way there will never be another show like it produced in Canada.  Get them out of power!

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Re: EXPLANATION FOR CANCELLING
« Reply #11 on: Dec 06, 2008, 09:46 PM »
Well the Conservatives may not be in power for much longer. Good riddance! Steven Harper doesn't have much of a sense of humour when it comes to drug stuff, or anything for that matter. It's too bad, because Trailer Park Boys is the best Canadian export ever.
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Re: EXPLANATION FOR CANCELLING
« Reply #12 on: Dec 06, 2008, 09:53 PM »
Well the Conservatives may not be in power for much longer. Good riddance! Steven Harper doesn't have much of a sense of humour when it comes to drug stuff, or anything for that matter. It's too bad, because Trailer Park Boys is the best Canadian export ever.

Oh we can only hope they won't be in power for much longer!  Yes TPB is a great Canadian export :)

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Re: EXPLANATION FOR CANCELLING
« Reply #13 on: Dec 06, 2008, 09:53 PM »
Wow. Great, informative post, Shake. Even for those who have seen/read it earlier, a refresher is always welcome!

I'd say it was the producers ending it early. such a shame. all the actors want to keep it going.

Ironically enough, in the case of our favorite show, a percentage of the producers are also actors. Okay, one. Still, the cancellation must be causing some mixed feelings within, as well as without the ranks.

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« Reply #14 on: Dec 07, 2008, 02:05 AM »


"All the so called “fans” that came here on the Org and bitched how the show wasn’t good anymore should bear some of the responsibility there’s only so much negativity one can stand."

Wow, what the hell were they doing on this site then? This show was never bad. Ever.

Man, I've loved the show ever since I first laid eyes on it and while I wish it would continue...yeah, we gotta respect what Mike Clattenburg and those guys decided to do. You never know, one day the show might get revived...

We got seven awesome years of TPB, which is a lot more than I thought we were ever going to get. There were a lot of heavy metal dicks out there trying to shut the boyz down for a long time after all.

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Re: EXPLANATION FOR CANCELLING
« Reply #15 on: Dec 07, 2008, 09:50 AM »
Yes you do deserve an explanation. All shows run their course. I made the descion to end the show on a high note. We all had an incredible time shooting the sequel film this summer. It's probably the most fun we've had on set - ever. But please consider that we have been doing TPB for almost 10 years now and I need to move on. Everyone is going in new creative directions and have been for a while. There was some press on a 'sudden cancellation' where press made it appear that the cast had no idea the show was ending. Robb, JP and Mike were furious when they saw this angle and contacted me right away to tell me these stories were spun. All our cast knew that season 7 was the last season and production was drawing to a close. People started to move on. It's not a surprise to anyone in our camp.

So yes, it's the end - but you have two gigantic TPB explosions coming your way soon.

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« Reply #16 on: Dec 07, 2008, 09:55 AM »
Thanks for the clarification Mike.  It has been a great run, you all should be proud!  Looking forward to the explosions :)

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« Reply #17 on: Dec 07, 2008, 10:43 AM »
There was some press on a 'sudden cancellation' where press made it appear that the cast had no idea the show was ending. Robb, JP and Mike were furious when they saw this angle and contacted me right away to tell me these stories were spun. All our cast knew that season 7 was the last season and production was drawing to a close. People started to move on. It's not a surprise to anyone in our camp.

I posted some of those articles and (probably publicly stated) "What in the fuck? They didn't know?" I should have known better than to believe everything I read in the press, I guess they are always looking for the most controversial angle and spin the story to suit. I stand corrected and apologize!

Reminds me now why I didn't pursue a career as a journalist.   ;)



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« Reply #18 on: Dec 07, 2008, 10:44 AM »
Thanks very much, Mike! You've given Canada and the world a great gift, and I'm sure it won't be the last. As well, I'm looking forward to tonight's farewell and next year's movie! I will continue to spread the gospel of Trailer Park Boys to all who will listen.
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Re: EXPLANATION FOR CANCELLING
« Reply #19 on: Dec 07, 2008, 11:06 AM »
There was some press on a 'sudden cancellation' where press made it appear that the cast had no idea the show was ending. Robb, JP and Mike were furious when they saw this angle and contacted me right away to tell me these stories were spun. All our cast knew that season 7 was the last season and production was drawing to a close. People started to move on. It's not a surprise to anyone in our camp.

I posted some of those articles and (probably publicly stated) "What in the fuck? They didn't know?" I should have known better than to believe everything I read in the press, I guess they are always looking for the most controversial angle and spin the story to suit. I stand corrected and apologize!

Reminds me now why I didn't pursue a career as a journalist.   ;)




Yeah that is pretty bad that journalists would spin a story like that.  I do remember at the season seven premiere party I was getting the impression from some of the cast that the show was over. 

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« Reply #20 on: Dec 07, 2008, 09:51 PM »
Thanks for the clarification, Mike, and thanks a whole lot for the fantastic gift you have given us.

.... and it goes without saying man, that if you are ever out my way in Vancouver here,and ya wanna look me up, the beers are on me buddy  ;)

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« Reply #21 on: Dec 08, 2008, 07:34 AM »
Time to start our own production company.  You think the actors would work for baloney sandwiches and homemade garbage liquor? 
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« Reply #22 on: Dec 08, 2008, 07:56 AM »
Hey there,

To be really honest, I am very ready for TPB to be finished production. Not because I hate making the show, and not because I think the men and women I work with are jerks, but because over the last decade my life has changed a great deal and my priorities have shifted. I would make the show as long as Mike C. was interested and, thankfully, he wants to do other stuff, which frees me to do other stuff. And there are other cast who feel the same way. This is the right time.

Sorry to disappoint folks who love the show so much, but glad to have made (under Mike C. gentle whip) something that folks noticed. 

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« Reply #23 on: Dec 08, 2008, 07:59 AM »
We love you all for making the show.  Even Seinfeld had to end, and this show is just a bit better.
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« Reply #24 on: Dec 08, 2008, 04:00 PM »
I think in TV history we've all seen shows run too long. I mean I used to worship Night Court back in the day, as did a lot of people, but even the die hard fans of the show have to admit that the last three or four years were just not very good at all. They began to repeat themselves, and it became almost painful to watch at times.

Having said that, I don't think that I could ever get board of new episodes of TPB, I could probably watch it forever. But Mike makes a good point in this thread. You really do wanna end on a high note. You don't want to be repetitive or stale. If you do, you run the risk of alienating fans, critics, and raising the bar so high (especially in a show like this), you can't overcome it in each successive season. That's just the way it works.

There's a lot of great talent in TPB in front of as well as behind the camera, and it's time for them to see what they can do with it next. They have the opportunity to take the notoriety and experience they've gained and move onwards and upwards, which is what we all want for ourselves in our own lives.

So while I'm personally devastated :: whimpers :: I completely see why this decision was necessary for everyone involved with the show. My best wishes to you all, and my heartfelt thanks for making this show a part of my life :)

Now, I'll go and watch the special a fourth time!