Yeah, what Fishy said - You probably just haven't got the right one yet. Also, I appreciate what you're saying about the drummer not being the lead guy and just making as much noise as possible, but in some cases like Lightning Bolt (in the video link above) the drummer is almost definitely the lead musician. I definitely would agree that as a whole the drums aren't the lead instrument but do make a shedload of difference. There's a bunch of bands I've seen live, as I'm sure everyone else who goes to gigs has, but one I went to last night as a good example, the songs they were playing were interesting and could have been a shit-ton better if the drummer didn't seem so scared of leaving a straight 4/4 beat, there was just no creative thought put into it, and it got boring real quick, just felt lazy or something. The straight 4/4 thing definitely isn't bad and works for a shitload of bands depending on what they're trying to do but I think it can let a band down massively. fuck it, I've just got home from work, finished a joint and I'm rambling on. blah blah blah 4/4 blah drums etc.