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« on: May 13, 2006, 09:52 PM »
Bye Post Counts :wave: :wave: Nice knowin' Ya's
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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2006, 11:10 PM »
still in the profiles.. and anywhere else in the stats..  :roll:
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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2006, 11:15 PM »
Out of curiosity, why did you make the change?

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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2006, 11:25 PM »
Personal prefrence really.. I've found, through running this site for a couple years that post counts can be intimdating, and definitely are seen as status point.

Some other sites I'm on have no post count, some have joined date.. just seemed like a good idea to me.

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« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2006, 12:49 AM »
Since there was no hard, practical reason to remove our post counts, it would have been preferable, IMHO, to have a poll to find out how members feel about keeping or losing their post counts in its established place.

Post counts do reflect something about the contributions made by members. I can live without it, but I would prefer to have it back.

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« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2006, 01:01 AM »
Just as a point of note, like cat-dog said nobody lost their post count, it is still there in your profile and forum stats.  So it is not in it's established place, it just means those who are inclined to measure the worth of a member by their post count have to dig a bit harder.

In the words of the great Bob Seger, "I feel like a number, I'm not a number".

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« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2006, 01:23 AM »
It's good to see that the #'s are still accessable .
So how about adding "member since" or "Joined on" . It used to be that way , didn't it?
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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2006, 01:33 AM »
Seemed like a minor enough thing to me that I didn't think warrented a poll. I figured by going this way it would eliminate the urge for anyone with a high post count to talk down to people who don't post as often, or are new..

As well, a good majority of posts in the "what are you listening to?" thread being 1 liners - I don't think it's really a stat that accurately reflects someones contributions. It's just one example of many topics out there like that.

For the people with post numbers that went down - it's something that will keep happening as the board is pruned of old data, and the more people are caught up in the amount of posts they make, or have, the more questions I have to field as to why it's not as it should be.

Personally I'd rather not make a judgement or reply to someone, and phrase things differently, or not give my honest opinion because the person I'm talking to boasts a huge post count. Like say a new person joins, and has something to say but they see joe schmoe with 8000 posts say something that counters what they think.. are they going to give the same reply? If so, how does joe schmoe react to a conflicting reply from a "nobody".. I just think it causes more walls/borders and stifles communication than it does and real 'good'.

I'm more inclined to make a judgement on someone based on what they say, not how many posts they make.

@saucy - I did change it to joined date, but was questioned on how pointless it was to display since senority wasn't a factor here, so both were removed.

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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2006, 02:24 AM »
I noticed post counts went down a few hundred for some people.  Ben is under 5000 now even though he has a 5000 thread.  And I lost a few hundred was 4500ish before.

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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2006, 02:30 AM »
I noticed post counts went down a few hundred for some people.  Ben is under 5000 now even though he has a 5000 thread.  And I lost a few hundred was 4500ish before.

http://www.trailerparkboys.org/forums/index.php?topic=5150.msg105505#msg105505

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« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2006, 02:41 AM »
I noticed post counts went down a few hundred for some people.  Ben is under 5000 now even though he has a 5000 thread.  And I lost a few hundred was 4500ish before.

http://www.trailerparkboys.org/forums/index.php?topic=5150.msg105505#msg105505


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« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2006, 02:41 AM »
I figured by going this way it would eliminate the urge for anyone with a high post count to talk down to people who don't post as often, or are new..

Is this something that really happens much?


As well, a good majority of posts in the "what are you listening to?" thread being 1 liners - I don't think it's really a stat that accurately reflects someones contributions. It's just one example of many topics out there like that.

Well , I do agree with you on that one....

I'm more inclined to make a judgement on someone based on what they say, not how many posts they make.

There are folks with under 100 posts who I enjoy reading more than some with over 1000 posts , and I don't let the count get in the way about how I feel about what they have written.
 
@saucy - I did change it to joined date, but was questioned on how pointless it was to display since seniority wasn't a factor here, so both were removed.

 :? :? :? , I don't see the big deal. Sometimes it's nice to have a quick reminder of how long someone has been here ....

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« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2006, 02:55 AM »
It does help to show people who is a regular member.  IMO I would leave the postcount visible.  I dont think many people post just to add postcount.  And if they do we usually notice and warn them.

Just one mans opinion though.

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« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2006, 03:06 AM »
I figured by going this way it would eliminate the urge for anyone with a high post count to talk down to people who don't post as often, or are new..

Is this something that really happens much?


Not on a frequent basis, but it happens, and when it does it reflects poorly on the community we have here if established members treat new/low posting users with anything less than the respect and courtesy they'd want given to them.

@CG - I dont think anyone is suggesting there's a problem with people who post just to add postcount.. I just didn't feel it was an accurate measurment of contribution, and could be a communication block/intimidation factor for newer members.

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« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2006, 03:12 AM »
Thats a very good point.  I have to agree and think we should give it a try. 

Maybe in the future a seperate system from the custom titles could be introduced where mods/admins can set members to a higher "rank" based on quality of post.

Or even bringing back the "Trailer Park Respect" points, where we can add a point to a member we deem worthy.

That way people can see for example Bottlekid has 30 Trailer Park Respect points.....so hes obviously respected and what he says can be believed, as 30 people voted to give him a point.

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« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2006, 03:57 AM »
Many of the forums I am member and/or mod on have gone through this same debate.  IMHO I don't see a problem with loosing the visibility of post counts on posts themselves.  I presonallhy read nothing into post counts and don't really care how "active" a person is.  I tend to look at quality over quantity if you will and look at each posts content and not how many posts a person has.  I'll post my comments / supply input based on the content of the thread regardless of if the person / people I am responding to has 1 or 10,000 posts.  Just my 2 cents and it probly ain't worth that!

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« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2006, 06:53 AM »
Thats a very good point.  I have to agree and think we should give it a try. 

Maybe in the future a seperate system from the custom titles could be introduced where mods/admins can set members to a higher "rank" based on quality of post.

Or even bringing back the "Trailer Park Respect" points, where we can add a point to a member we deem worthy.

That way people can see for example Bottlekid has 30 Trailer Park Respect points.....so hes obviously respected and what he says can be believed, as 30 people voted to give him a point.

Yes after that we can see who the reall shitapples are without a golden star above theyre name and put them in happy camps just to gass em afterwards.. :P

I think its a great idea and really have no problem with it at all, i myself have made the mistake myself several times by looking at someones post count to see if hes a noobie or not and if i should "respect"him anyhow this way ill have no way to make that mistake and others neither, no need to show seniority imo, we all know who the regular ones are no need to put us on a pedastule like pussy.. :P


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« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2006, 08:51 AM »
I always like knowing how much of my "work" time is devoted to TPB.org, so post count can go the way of the dinosaur if the all knowing CD wants.  I like the joined on date so you can at least see who the noobs are.

Maybe a length of time instead of joined on date, as in Memeber for xxx months or something.

If noobs don't introduce themselves and start posting somewhere else, how will we know to introduce our selves (not that I do anyway anymore).  Sorry noobs.
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« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2006, 09:17 AM »
awwwwwwwww, just as I was about to cross 2000, oh well...I will find something to fill the void.
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« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2006, 09:19 AM »
As a person that owns a board and frequents alot of boards, I would have to agree with CD on his decision to remove the post counts, because people do have a tendency to judge others based on their numbers. That may not be the case with everyone on this forum, but I have seen that happen in a few instances on this board. I myself have had a few new members of my own get "eaten alive" by "senior members" on my board and it can get really ugly at times, no matter how many times you warn people and no matter how "clean" you try and keep your board.

Personally I don't believe that there should be any type of "ranking system" on boards, because no matter what you use or do, judgements will be made irregardless. On one board that I frequent, members are ranked by color, on another board, you get a little slogan once you've reached a certain number of posts and even those methods don't seem to work either.

On one particular fan board they have a ranking system and given who the person that owns the board is, you would think his members would be a little more respectful, but the fact is, I've seen alot of people get thrown into the pitts of hell. No you can not compare this board with other boards, we have some fantastic MODS here that do a great job. However, once the board really begins to grow in numbers (which I suspect it will once the movie comes out) do you as MODS want to sit around all day, sending out warning messages and breaking up fights? It may not happen often now, but trust me it will happen after you've reached a certain level of members.



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« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2006, 10:26 AM »
I respect and support the decision to remove the post count. As long as the information is still available in the profile and forum stats, I see no problem with the change. I also believe that any type of "ranking system" would create angst. I applaud cat-dog in his continued efforts to update and improve this site.
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« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2006, 10:36 AM »
I have to agree with removing the post count as long as it's available in the profile information. I also agree with the decision on having a  "ranking system" I have seen on other boards where it did create angst once it got started, even though it was never intended. I would like to continue to give cat-dog the "props" he deserves at making this website enjoyable. I noticed last night that we are once again below 1000 members. Cleaning out the website is always a good idea IMHO.

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« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2006, 10:43 AM »
I don't see a need for post counts at all - anywhere on the site.  I akin evaluating someone by their post count number is like evaluating somebody on how much money they have.  Again, IMHO it's more about someones attitude and how and what they post versus how many posts they have made.  Post counts or not - this is still a damn fine place to hang out and I'll be around regardless :).  Thanks agian Cat-Dog for makin' this place sooooo groovy :).

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« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2006, 10:50 AM »
Post counts..bah...who needs em.

If people would just get over themselves for 5 minutes they would realize how silly it is in the grand scheme of things.

Post when you feel you have something relevant to say or a point to make and who cares if thats once a day or 10 times a day!  As long as it isn't spamming what difference does it make how many posts you have!

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« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2006, 11:22 AM »
I'm indifferent either way.I don't care if we have them or not.