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« Reply #25 on: Dec 14, 2005, 02:19 PM »
Ok but he's dead now so ummmmmmmmmm MOVE ON!


He's got peace now I don't my head is pounding with this damn neck ache!
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« Reply #26 on: Dec 14, 2005, 03:27 PM »

4bz! I love that you support Mr.Emery, he's a legand here. (to us smokers, anyway!!) I also am crossing my fingers for him. We'll find out what happens in mid. Feb./06.
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« Reply #27 on: Dec 14, 2005, 03:39 PM »


Vancouver!  I knew Mark Emery when I lived in London, Ontario.  His people were selling mushroom spores with directions on how to grow your own kick ass Mexican mushrooms!  The argument being, mushroom spores are not illegal.  He's a great guy, he has stood up for the dope smoker on so many occasions and I REALLY hope he gets off any and all charges he ever comes up against cuz all he's doing is smoking a little dope and helping us get quality seeds n whatnot to cultivate our own.  Fuckin Yankee pigs gotta keep their hands off our boy and let us deal with him.  On top of that, we need to get out there and vote for the shit be LEGAL so the average dude can tune out the world's bullshit using whatever means he wants....  maybe I don't wanna drink myself to sleep tonight... can't I just smoke a nice gagger and drift off to that?




Is there a "Free Mark Emery petition" Cuz I'd sign that. He is known worldwide.
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« Reply #28 on: Dec 14, 2005, 04:10 PM »
Going a little off-topic here but since the topic of prison life came up I thought I'd post this thread from another board. On the forum on redflagdeals.com there's a poster who is a prison guard at Kingston Penitentiary a maximum security facility in Ontario. He started a thread called "ask me anything about jail". Some may find it interesting.

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=192820
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« Reply #29 on: Dec 14, 2005, 06:27 PM »
Going a little off-topic here but since the topic of prison life came up I thought I'd post this thread from another board. On the forum on redflagdeals.com there's a poster who is a prison guard at Kingston Penitentiary a maximum security facility in Ontario. He started a thread called "ask me anything about jail". Some may find it interesting.

http://www.redflagdeals.com/forums/showthread.php?t=192820

Great link there 4eyes, still reading it, but very interesting.

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« Reply #30 on: Dec 14, 2005, 07:26 PM »
Some people will argue that a person dont deserve death for killing someone and those people are these people that there family was never murdered or anyone they know so usually unless it happens to them then they will go around and say dont murder the murderer.

I do know someone who was murdered.I still don't support the death penalty. Killing the person that murdered my freind....will not bring him back.It would give me no peace to have his killer put to death.His family feels the same way. His Mother told me,that despite the hatred she feels for this person,she has no ill will toward his family and would not want any hand in causing the death of someone elses child.That's not to say that everyone feels this way but I did want to clarify that it's not so black and white.


But I got off topic here. If the justice system worked criminals sentenced to death would not sit on deathrow for 25 years. This is why it costs so much to give them the death penalty. Lawyers and the justice system cost money, every time a convict has to be transported to and from a court hearing costs money. If criminals got ONE appeal and that was all, it would cost less money and take less time. ONE appeal, you lose that appeal and thats it, do not pass go, do not collect $200, go directly to the chair. Electricity is cheap and the lethal injection is probably one hell of a ride.

But thats what the system allows....and it should.I'm sure those that were eventually exonerated of crimes they didn't commit and spared the chair are thankful that they had they opportunity and time to prove their innocence.

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« Reply #31 on: Dec 15, 2005, 07:47 AM »
In the end i think its just a big glitch in the system that deffently shouldnt be there.. theyre so many of em so in the end i stop carin so i wouldnt get pissed..

Really deathpenatly is so not a punishment to me, the guy is dead after that what kind of punshiment is that? and then for mostly people who dont have anything to loose  anyway..

The only good solution imo is bread and water jails, they get a bunkbed made out of hay and just enough water and bread to get them through the day so theyll regret what they did every second of there long lasting crappy lives..
Yeah the system fucked that up and now they get too watch new movies every week in theyre own theater, have cable pay tv, fitness rooms, swimming pools, education and whatever...  This may be good for the small fish who didnt do that worse of a crime but the muderes , rapist , .. also get the same preveledges witch is just wrong.. those people should indeed rot in miserie .. and deffently not let out urly

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« Reply #32 on: Dec 15, 2005, 10:11 AM »
I believe that the current death penalty system is broken.

  • It does not have a deterrant effect.
  • It is applied capriciously.
  • The fail-safes have failed not once but many times.

The death penalty does not have a deterrant effect.  On a societal level many of the crimes that the dp is supposed to punish are commited either out of conviction or desperation.  Both ideas are somewhat exclusive to consideration of long term consequences.  A cornerstone of effective punishment for both dogs and people, is that consequences to the wrongdoing must happen quickly.  This is impossible under the current system.

The death penalty is not applied in an evenhanded manner.  Despite guidelines, the ultimate decision is up to the jury to recommend a sentance and the judge to affirm the recommendation.  The nuances of a crime with respect to both the victims and the criminal have a large effect on the outcome, whether it be life without parole, or death. 
Hypothetically three people are murdered in the commission of a robbery.  Were the victims a family in the suburbs?  Were the victims the same color as the jury?  What is the socioeconomic status of the alleged murderer?  None of these questions should have any effect whatsoever in "the blind eye of justice".  They do.

The former Governor of Illinois abolished our death penalty a few years ago.  There were seven men on death row who did not commit the crime they were accused of.  This is just in one state...  One man's court appointed attorney slept through periods of the trial.  Other's were exonerated after the DNA of their cases was re-examined.  The State is here to protect the Civil Rights of every person.  If the State is going to remove Life, the first and ultimate Civil Right, then it damn well better be sure that it is doing it to the correct person.

The system at large must be scrapped as unworkable and unrepairable.

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« Reply #33 on: Dec 15, 2005, 06:52 PM »
Much more eloquant and succinctly put than I could have. Well said Kyle.

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« Reply #34 on: Dec 16, 2005, 06:51 PM »
Holy fuck Kyle... you sound like a fuckin lawyer!!  Wish I had a command of the english language like that!!!  All I can do is swear effectively.

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« Reply #35 on: Dec 19, 2005, 07:22 AM »
Much more eloquant and succinctly put than I could have. Well said Kyle.

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« Reply #36 on: Dec 19, 2005, 09:13 PM »
while I was lookin up horviculture, he was studyin law or somethin...

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« Reply #37 on: Jul 07, 2008, 07:18 PM »
I don't believe in the death penalty but I do agree the punishment must fit the crime. We need to re-assess the criminal's ability to re-integrate into society too. Can they, after so many years of being in that scenario, join our society that has grown 25 years?
 I don't know why they don't just increase the concentration on punishment for terrible crimes and stop putting money into prosecuting non-destructive faux pas like having a puff or two.
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