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goatdung

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« on: Aug 24, 2005, 10:18 PM »
when I'm at home this site works fine, but when I try to access this site from work, I get the "This page cannot be displayed because you are an idiot" error page when I try to hit the home URL, like so: http://www.trailerparkboys.org/sdkfjdskgjdfg (this is the only way I could generate the error page from home)
both IE and Firefox do this

any reason? I would like to waste some of my work time on this forum :D

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« Reply #1 on: Aug 24, 2005, 10:30 PM »
LOL! I love that!! I got that page once but I can't remember how I fixed it.

At your work they might have a content control and this is a site that you cannot view or is unaloud That is my only guess. :S
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« Reply #2 on: Aug 24, 2005, 10:45 PM »
I'm pretty sure they don't have content control, as I routinely browse sites a million times worse than this, hehe

my browser can still hit the home page URL, it's just returning that error page instead of the real content

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« Reply #3 on: Aug 24, 2005, 11:12 PM »
happened to me ,back during a server switch , I loved that page!
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« Reply #4 on: Aug 25, 2005, 03:24 AM »
Actually I don't really know.. unless your bookmarks are really old.

You can always reach the forums via http://forums.trailerparkboys.org - try that & let me know if things work out.
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« Reply #5 on: Aug 25, 2005, 03:10 PM »
Interesting problem!
It could be that the IP address range is, for some obscure reason, blocked.
However you would not get the "page can't be displayed" page if that were the case , so that don't make much sense...

I came across an article dealing with a similar problem where it was suggested to lower the MTU size, this is not something that you could do yourself..
MTU is the Maximun Transmission Unit , that will be allowed through by a router , it's like saying the maximun size letter you will accept for a given letter box, if the letter is to big then it won't fit in the letterbox :-)
It could be that the server this site is hosted on has a MTU that is smaller than the MTU your server is sending out . IE your server is sending a bigger letter than the "letterbox" of this server, this server won't know what hit it and just reject it .
It's a possibility , but a slim one !

You should not get the page if the site is blocked by any type of site blocker program , so i doubt that either..

Odd problem, will have to think about that :-)
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« Reply #6 on: Aug 25, 2005, 03:30 PM »
Do you know which ISP your work uses? The range of IPs may have been blocked due to some shitapples trying to cause trouble - and I noticed a few of these blocks in the error logs popping up recently - it may just be a coincidence though.

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« Reply #7 on: Aug 25, 2005, 03:55 PM »
If the site was blocked would you get the "page can't be displayed" page???
Dunno, i would imagine not as 404 page is on your server , so if he was blocked he would get nothing , i think !!!

I suspect it's something simple, really simple , just way too simple for me to figure out :-)

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« Reply #8 on: Aug 25, 2005, 03:59 PM »
I had that problem briefly at work as well.  I forget, or never really know what happened to fix it, but could it be a cookie?  If you have a way to delete the cookie for this site then maybe it would work?

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« Reply #9 on: Aug 25, 2005, 05:42 PM »
hey guys, thanks for the responses

I don't think it's a cookie/browser problem because I cleared the caches on both IE and Firefox, to no avail
I'm pretty sure it's a ISP problem, since I tried to hit the site at work through one of those free web based anonymizers, and it loaded just fine

I thought that maybe since you mentioned that there had been a server switch (before I discovered this site, I think..?) that the new IP hadn't propagated fully just yet, but pinging directly from my work PC and pinging through a web-based ping site ( http://dnsstuff.com/ ) gave the same IP address

the ISP is called "echo online" www.eol.ca, which I see is now serving businesses through Primus

anyway, it seems to be resolving to the right server/IP, but regardless of what URL I try to hit on this site, I get the same error page
the shit abyss!

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« Reply #10 on: Aug 25, 2005, 05:58 PM »
A ha ! , you did not mention that bit about the anonymizer .
Some site's will not load via a proxy, if you are using an anonymizer there is a good reason , either you are being blocked or you are trying to hide you internet movement's , either way , that's a whole different ball game ....
Or conversly if it will load via a proxy then your server is the problem, and there are restriction's on your internet activity


It really does help to FULLY describe the problem, your problem is NOT what you initially described .....

I wasted way to much time on this wild goose chase , good luck .....

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« Reply #11 on: Aug 25, 2005, 06:04 PM »
ok, to clarify:
I surf normally at work (actually, it's my own office in a building that has shared internet, so there are no issues with content control, and as I previously stated I am no stranger to surfing really really bad sites from my work PC :P )
when I surf normally, there are no problems with any sites, other than this one

just for curiosity's sake, I tried hitting ORG through a proxy, and it worked fine - I got the correct page; it's not the usual way I surf, and probably the second or third time I've tried proxying in my life
the only reason I did this was to verify that it was an ISP issue

the problem I originally stated is the exact problem that persists

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« Reply #12 on: Aug 25, 2005, 06:07 PM »
Was it the rude (TPB inspired?) page cannot be displayed message?
When I got that page once , I assumed that it was created by someone from here.

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« Reply #13 on: Aug 25, 2005, 06:43 PM »
You are gonna have to forgive me if i sound a little terse here ,or if i came across as being a tad terse in my last post...

I actually spent quite a lot of time tonight trying to figure your problem out ,to the detriment of what i shoud have being doing , but it was a rather interesting problem, but you did not fully describe your problem.

I wasted a lot of my time this evening  trying to figure something out that was not what it was...you totally mislead the reader with your first post

Beware of Proxy server's , they will alway's lead back to you !!!!
This problem has got jack shit to do with TPB's.org , it's clearly on your end.
Now if you just said that in the first place , i would not have wasted my time on a fools errant , and perhaps have a solution for ya ....

Have a good one .

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« Reply #14 on: Aug 25, 2005, 06:51 PM »
hmm, the reason I used the proxy was just to circumvent my own ISP, to see if it indeed was an ISP issue
I'm not sure how you got the impression that it's how I surf normally? it was just an experiment to see if I could get the page to load and indeed confirm that the problem was with the ISP - that's the end of the proxy discussion

I'm curious to see how I mislead anyone with my first post though..? I don't fully understand what you're saying, sorry heh

but no need for apologies! I am grateful that someone was trying to figure out my weird problem, heh

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« Reply #15 on: Aug 25, 2005, 07:21 PM »
If he is blocked from the site, he still will get the error page, since I've set things up to display that page in the event of an error (404) or a forbidden request (403) (ie: blocked).

I've checked the IP range of the EOL servers, but they don't seem to be included in any of the listed bans. The only thing being blocked today that I can see is *.magma.ca due to a problem user. I'm not sure if that'd be your work somehow or not, but I'm almost sure magma.ca uses Primus too now that I think about it.

I'll have to do some checking

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« Reply #16 on: Aug 25, 2005, 07:38 PM »
the plot thickens!

check out the EOL home page http://eol.ca/ and the second link they have for 'hosting services'

 :twisted:

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« Reply #17 on: Aug 26, 2005, 02:13 AM »
You could run a tracert and see where it's getting blocked, it may not be ISP but could be on the work router also.
Try tracert with and without the proxy.

I know lot's of people that surf with a proxy all the time, it's not uncommon.

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« Reply #18 on: Aug 26, 2005, 08:59 AM »
Quote from: goatdung
the plot thickens!

check out the EOL home page http://eol.ca/ and the second link they have for 'hosting services'

 :twisted:


Really sorry this is what's been causing you troubles. If you are able to use a proxy server to access the site from work, this might be your best bet. I use one all the time personally, it's basically added security when browsing.

Unfortunately the user I've been keeping out with this ban is someone who caused a great deal of problems on the old Showcase site, as well as a few attempts here - so I'd really like to keep him out if at all possible.

Sorry again for the trouble, it's not often (ever!) that we've had someone get blocked inadvertantly by an existing ban.

Cheers

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« Reply #19 on: Aug 26, 2005, 10:56 AM »
I must get that tut written by a friend of mine about proxy surfing , i am sure you will reconsider using one !!
It's not a great idea in generall to use a proxy server, it actually reduce's your security rather than enhance it .
However goutdung i guess your stuck with it :-(

Good luck :-)

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« Reply #20 on: Nov 02, 2005, 07:23 PM »
This is just a custom Page 404 Error http://www.plinko.net/404/

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« Reply #21 on: Nov 04, 2005, 12:43 AM »
This is just a custom Page 404 Error http://www.plinko.net/404/

LOL, nice.  Great to see peeps putting time and effort into the little things :D